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> <channel><title>Comments on: Remember Remember the 5th of November</title> <atom:link href="http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/</link> <description>My humble blog about fitness, health, diet (paleo and zone), CrossFit, PDR self defence, weightlifting, general life musings and occasional jollity.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:45:23 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: sasha</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-12523</link> <dc:creator>sasha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:03:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-12523</guid> <description>tell the kid the truth, it&#039;s nothing to be scared of, just put it in a way that she could understand and don;t forget to mention that violence brings other violence. I think she&#039;ll get it and i think she will enjoy the story. Take care now!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tell the kid the truth, it&#8217;s nothing to be scared of, just put it in a way that she could understand and don;t forget to mention that violence brings other violence. I think she&#8217;ll get it and i think she will enjoy the story. Take care now!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: g-g</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11959</link> <dc:creator>g-g</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:38:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11959</guid> <description>NO!!! dont teach that to a 7 year old</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO!!! dont teach that to a 7 year old</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rose</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11905</link> <dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:49:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11905</guid> <description>Okay, for those of you saying religion only divides us, you REALLY don&#039;t know your history. YES, it has done a LOT of bad, 9/11 being an example, but is also does a lot of good. Many people finds good purposes in their lives because they believe in their religion. NO, I am not religious, I am agnostic, but seriously, THINK: If we didn&#039;t have religion, people would just fight over different things, race, hair color, the way a person is taught. Religion is just a scape goat people use for wars and such, and you&#039;re justing giving the people who use it as such more power. Morons.
Second, I totally think that we&#039;re hiding TOO much from our kids these days. At the school by my house kids can&#039;t even play tag or red rover because &quot;ooooh they&#039;re touching each other how fucking inappropriate!&quot; It&#039;s all the parents fault for how badly my generation has turned out, and these kids are gonna be worse, because when a kid who had parents who are either over protective, or don&#039;t give an rats ass has a kid, they&#039;ll act either just as bad, or the exact opposite.
No, 7 is not the right time to stop censoring your kids however, but god sake let em&#039; play tag. Let them sing ring around the rose and bah bah black sheep, they don&#039;t know what the fuck it means, and if another kid tells them and they ask you, that&#039;s a good way to start up the conversation most parents now a day ignore, and that&#039;s that people can, and will try to, hurt them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, for those of you saying religion only divides us, you REALLY don&#8217;t know your history. YES, it has done a LOT of bad, 9/11 being an example, but is also does a lot of good. Many people finds good purposes in their lives because they believe in their religion. NO, I am not religious, I am agnostic, but seriously, THINK: If we didn&#8217;t have religion, people would just fight over different things, race, hair color, the way a person is taught. Religion is just a scape goat people use for wars and such, and you&#8217;re justing giving the people who use it as such more power. Morons.</p><p>Second, I totally think that we&#8217;re hiding TOO much from our kids these days. At the school by my house kids can&#8217;t even play tag or red rover because &#8220;ooooh they&#8217;re touching each other how fucking inappropriate!&#8221; It&#8217;s all the parents fault for how badly my generation has turned out, and these kids are gonna be worse, because when a kid who had parents who are either over protective, or don&#8217;t give an rats ass has a kid, they&#8217;ll act either just as bad, or the exact opposite.</p><p>No, 7 is not the right time to stop censoring your kids however, but god sake let em&#8217; play tag. Let them sing ring around the rose and bah bah black sheep, they don&#8217;t know what the fuck it means, and if another kid tells them and they ask you, that&#8217;s a good way to start up the conversation most parents now a day ignore, and that&#8217;s that people can, and will try to, hurt them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: patti charron</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11898</link> <dc:creator>patti charron</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:57:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11898</guid> <description>The verse is beyond the capacity of a seven year-old. Teach her in increments. That way nothing will be lost on her.
Thank you for this post and for including the entire poem. &quot;Remember, remember, The fifth of November&quot; is the oldest recorded rhyme. I learned that in school, along with the story of Guy Fawkes. It&#039;s not about political correctness. It&#039;s about history.
(And I would like to mention that it just KILLS me that so many people believe that &quot;Remember, remember . . . &quot; was created by the writers of the movie, &quot;V for Vendetta.&quot;) Sad.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The verse is beyond the capacity of a seven year-old. Teach her in increments. That way nothing will be lost on her.</p><p>Thank you for this post and for including the entire poem. &#8220;Remember, remember, The fifth of November&#8221; is the oldest recorded rhyme. I learned that in school, along with the story of Guy Fawkes. It&#8217;s not about political correctness. It&#8217;s about history.</p><p>(And I would like to mention that it just KILLS me that so many people believe that &#8220;Remember, remember . . . &#8221; was created by the writers of the movie, &#8220;V for Vendetta.&#8221;) Sad.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ian Melvin</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11895</link> <dc:creator>Ian Melvin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:52:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11895</guid> <description>&quot;Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.&quot;
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As a kid I used to stand outside Edgware Road Tube Station asking passersby for &quot;a penny for the Guy&quot;, collecting money for fireworks for Guy Fawkes Night! Ironic that that particular station was one bombed during the July 7th suicide bombings of London&#039;s Underground!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.&#8221;<br
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/> As a kid I used to stand outside Edgware Road Tube Station asking passersby for &#8220;a penny for the Guy&#8221;, collecting money for fireworks for Guy Fawkes Night! Ironic that that particular station was one bombed during the July 7th suicide bombings of London&#8217;s Underground!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Colin McNulty</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11892</link> <dc:creator>Colin McNulty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11892</guid> <description>Unknown: Yes I did read the rest of the article, but as religious scholars from all faiths do, I chose to quote the verses that backed up what I wanted to say.  It is my (admittedly limited) experience, that if you look hard enough, all religious texts are often so vague and/or contradictory, that you can almost make they say anything you want.  How else do you explain the fact that every religion has a multitude of factions that believe different fundamental things, based on the same teachings?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unknown: Yes I did read the rest of the article, but as religious scholars from all faiths do, I chose to quote the verses that backed up what I wanted to say.  It is my (admittedly limited) experience, that if you look hard enough, all religious texts are often so vague and/or contradictory, that you can almost make they say anything you want.  How else do you explain the fact that every religion has a multitude of factions that believe different fundamental things, based on the same teachings?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GrayWolf</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11891</link> <dc:creator>GrayWolf</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:02:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11891</guid> <description>The problem with people today is they want to censor everything and be &quot;politically correct.&quot;  History is history.  If we start censoring it or try to make it sound &quot;nice&quot; then we will never learn anything from the past either.  Get over it....I would tell my children about it and read the poem to them....oh yes...I did!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with people today is they want to censor everything and be &#8220;politically correct.&#8221;  History is history.  If we start censoring it or try to make it sound &#8220;nice&#8221; then we will never learn anything from the past either.  Get over it&#8230;.I would tell my children about it and read the poem to them&#8230;.oh yes&#8230;I did!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wildebeest</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11890</link> <dc:creator>wildebeest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:16:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11890</guid> <description>Repudiate this ill-found belief that words create us. We create words. We create myths. Myths do not create us. There is no such thing as bad words, only words used badly. Teach the classics. Learn where you&#039;re really from and then let it go. The PC police harbor a secret desire to control. They want a world in which words create us so that they might be the privileged set who supply the approved words, the words that have never and will never create us. They are fat sultans and closet aristocrats. They are Torquemada in the dungeons of Spain. Do not worship this word-god. Become who you really are. Logos (λόγος ) is the lie. Remember, remember the 5th of November!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repudiate this ill-found belief that words create us. We create words. We create myths. Myths do not create us. There is no such thing as bad words, only words used badly. Teach the classics. Learn where you&#8217;re really from and then let it go. The PC police harbor a secret desire to control. They want a world in which words create us so that they might be the privileged set who supply the approved words, the words that have never and will never create us. They are fat sultans and closet aristocrats. They are Torquemada in the dungeons of Spain. Do not worship this word-god. Become who you really are. Logos (λόγος ) is the lie. Remember, remember the 5th of November!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Unknown</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11888</link> <dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 06:02:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11888</guid> <description>And hey, McNulty, did you happen to read the rest of the article?
Even though suicide is forbidden in Islam, some conservative, influential Muslim scholars including most notably Yusuf al-Qaradawi have justified suicide bombings when the perpetrators are occupied or acting in self-defense without other available means to defend themselves.[65] However, many scholars of Islam have pointed out that classically, Islam does not justify suicide bombings. For example, Bernard Lewis states, &quot;The emergence of the now widespread terrorism practice of suicide bombing is a development of the 20th century. It has no antecedents in Islamic history, and no justification in terms of Islamic theology, law, or tradition.&quot;[49] Respected Muslim scholars have also made statements and fatwas condemning suicide bombings as terrorism that is prohibited in Islam with the perpetrators being destined to hell.[48] In condemning suicide attacks, Muslim scholar Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri directly targeted the rationale of Islamists by stating, &quot;Violence is violence. It has no place in Islamic teaching, and no justification can be provided to it...good intention cannot justify a wrong and forbidden act&quot;.[48] In January 2006, one of Shia Islam&#039;s highest ranking Marja clerics, Ayatollah al-Udhma Yousof al-Sanei also decreed a fatwa against suicide bombing, declaring it as a &quot;terrorist act&quot;.[66]
According to Charles Kimball, chair of the Department of Religion at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, &quot;There is only one verse in the Qur&#039;an that contains a phrase related to suicide&quot;, Surah 4 verse 29 of the Quran.[67] It reads:
O you who have believed, do not consume one another&#039;s wealth unjustly but only [in lawful] business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.
Some commentators believe that the phrase &quot;do not kill yourselves&quot; is better translated &quot;do not kill each other&quot;, and some translations (e.g., by Shakir) reflect that view.[68] Mainstream Islamic groups such as the European Council for Fatwa and Research also cite the Quranic verse Al-Anam 6:151 as prohibiting suicide: &quot;And take not life, which Allah has made sacred, except by way of justice and law&quot;.[69] In addition, the Hadith unambiguously forbid suicide including Bukhari 2:445, &quot;The Prophet said, &#039;...whoever commits suicide with a piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire,&quot; and &quot;A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him.&quot;.[70][71]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And hey, McNulty, did you happen to read the rest of the article?</p><p>Even though suicide is forbidden in Islam, some conservative, influential Muslim scholars including most notably Yusuf al-Qaradawi have justified suicide bombings when the perpetrators are occupied or acting in self-defense without other available means to defend themselves.[65] However, many scholars of Islam have pointed out that classically, Islam does not justify suicide bombings. For example, Bernard Lewis states, &#8220;The emergence of the now widespread terrorism practice of suicide bombing is a development of the 20th century. It has no antecedents in Islamic history, and no justification in terms of Islamic theology, law, or tradition.&#8221;[49] Respected Muslim scholars have also made statements and fatwas condemning suicide bombings as terrorism that is prohibited in Islam with the perpetrators being destined to hell.[48] In condemning suicide attacks, Muslim scholar Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri directly targeted the rationale of Islamists by stating, &#8220;Violence is violence. It has no place in Islamic teaching, and no justification can be provided to it&#8230;good intention cannot justify a wrong and forbidden act&#8221;.[48] In January 2006, one of Shia Islam&#8217;s highest ranking Marja clerics, Ayatollah al-Udhma Yousof al-Sanei also decreed a fatwa against suicide bombing, declaring it as a &#8220;terrorist act&#8221;.[66]<br
/> According to Charles Kimball, chair of the Department of Religion at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, &#8220;There is only one verse in the Qur&#8217;an that contains a phrase related to suicide&#8221;, Surah 4 verse 29 of the Quran.[67] It reads:<br
/> O you who have believed, do not consume one another&#8217;s wealth unjustly but only [in lawful] business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.<br
/> Some commentators believe that the phrase &#8220;do not kill yourselves&#8221; is better translated &#8220;do not kill each other&#8221;, and some translations (e.g., by Shakir) reflect that view.[68] Mainstream Islamic groups such as the European Council for Fatwa and Research also cite the Quranic verse Al-Anam 6:151 as prohibiting suicide: &#8220;And take not life, which Allah has made sacred, except by way of justice and law&#8221;.[69] In addition, the Hadith unambiguously forbid suicide including Bukhari 2:445, &#8220;The Prophet said, &#8216;&#8230;whoever commits suicide with a piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire,&#8221; and &#8220;A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him.&#8221;.[70][71]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Unknown</title><link>http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/comment-page-1/#comment-11887</link> <dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 05:59:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.colinmcnulty.com/blog/2007/10/19/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/#comment-11887</guid> <description>LOL. Respect for Guy Fawkes? Thanks to him, Catholic rights got set back near a hundred years in Britain. I wonder how people would react if I wore a Timothy McVeigh mask tomorrow.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Respect for Guy Fawkes? Thanks to him, Catholic rights got set back near a hundred years in Britain. I wonder how people would react if I wore a Timothy McVeigh mask tomorrow.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
