An important thing to remember about the Paleo diet is that it is normal for people to eat larger portions of meat and veg etc. because they don’t have the high levels of carbs found in things like grains, cerials and potatos present in most modern diets to fill themselves up.

And starting the Paleo diet is hard. I spent the first two weeks struggling with depression and severe cravings until it started to improve – first to the point where I felt the same as I had before I started the diet, and then better than I can ever remember feeling.

Also, it is not impossible to eat out, though it is often necessary to slightly alter the meal on the menu (I’ve yet to come across somewhere that won’t do this for me). If you can’t find a salad on the menu, you can often order one of their sandwiches minus the bread. Dinner menus are even easier, with most options based on meat. Steak and salad, lamb chops with steamed vegies, a roast dinner are all enjoyable and viable options.

I agree that lean fat is not a good idea Paleo wise. I particularly like the line “Inuits threw the lean meat to their dogs!” I also agree that unlimited fruit is a bad idea too, though I have no idea if modern fruit is sweeter than fruit 10,000 years ago. How do you know that?

Also, unlimited fruit is NOT paleo in the sense the modern fruit is much sweeter and available all year round. For those who tolerate dairy, butter and cream are great. Best summary IMHO: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

Thank you for the reply. I printed the list of +50/-50 protein and the fruits and vegetable carb list and I am keeping them close on shopping trips in the back of my mind when dining out.

Thanks again.

JG

Looking at the list, anything with >50% protein content is on the Can Eat list, and anything with >50% fat content, is on the avoid list. I read this as saying, don’t get all your protein from fatty meat sources, there are other more desirable alternatives.

BUT that doesn’t mean fatty protein sources are taboo. So to answer your question, if choosing between a pizza or a hotdog, I’d take the fatty protein every time. The reason is, a high carb intake will spike your insulin every time, which is bad; fatty protein source won’t, it’s just not ideal.

My Question:

If faced with a social situation and there no vegetable or lean protien availabe which is a better choice a carb or a fatty protien? In other words should I eat the pizza or the hotdog, sans the bun?

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If you just follow a Paleo plan, you can eat as much fruit as you like, which is a sure fire way to not lose weight. Fruit is still carbs / natural sugars and you need to limit their intake to lose weight. If you follow a zone prescription of paleo food, you should get the best of both worlds, which is what I do.

As for milk, it’s one of the few foods that’s treated as both a protein and carb block on the zone. So if you had a cup of milk and a macadamia nut, that would be a complete 1 block snack: 1 block of protein from the milk, 1 block of carbs from the milk, and 1 block of fat from the nut. Though personally, I would just get full fat milk (which is still 96% fat free remember!) and count it as a complete self contained snack, including the fat.

Hope that helps. Colin

I’ve done Zone with great results and just tried the Paleo.. felt better than Zone, but no weight loss (which is how I came across your blog). I find the arguments in the Paleo diet against milk weak (bc of fat, but what about lowfat dairy?) and couldn’t figure out how to make milk “zoned.” It seems complicated.. I’d love if you could share how you do it!

Thanks

Christina